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June 30, 2005

Thoughts : Why do people bother?

As far back as I can recall into childhood, I believed in at least a generic God – someone who created the universe with some purpose. At Age 10, I made an explicit and intentional decision to become a Christian, and while I have certainly refined my definition what it means to be a Christian many times, there has never been a point at which I did not believe that there was a meaning and a purpose to the universe.

I'm thinking about that because with the movie of "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" having come out this year, I have been re-watching the original BBC TV show. Now for those who have only seen the movie (which has an unfortunate happy ending tagged on to it), the original British story was an exercise in pure, unadulterated nihilism. The whole point of "42" and all that was that the universe didn't have any meaning, and everyone one was just fooling themselves into thinking there was one.

I think this is best captured in the patter of the Master of Ceremonies at Milliways – the Restaurant at the End of the Universe (I'll note that the American movie ended before they got to Milliways). Here's a sample:

"Thank you ladies and gentlemen!" he cried, "thank you very much. Thank you so much."
"Ladies and gentlemen," he said, "The Universe as we know it has now been in existence for over one hundred and seventy thousand million billion years and will be ending in a little over half an hour. So, welcome one and all to Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe!"
"I am your host for tonight," he said, "my name is Max Quordlepleen and I've just come straight from the very very other end of time, where I've been hosting a show at the Big Bang Burger Bar - where I can tell you we had a very exciting evening ladies and gentlemen - and I will be with you right through this historic occasion, the End of History itself!"
"So, ladies and gentlemen," he breathed, "the candles are lit, the band plays softly, and as the force-shielded dome above us fades into transparency, revealing a dark and sullen sky hung heavy with the ancient light of livid swollen stars, I can see we're all in for a fabulous evening's apocalypse!"
Even the soft tootling of the band faded away as stunned shock descended on all those who had not seen this sight before.
A monstrous, grisly light poured in on them,
- a hideous light,
- a boiling, pestilential light,
- a light that would have disfigured hell.
The Universe was coming to an end.
For a few interminable seconds the Restaurant span silently through the raging void. Then Max spoke again.
"For those of you who ever hoped to see the light at the end of the tunnel," he said, "this is it."
"And as the photon storms gather in swirling crowds around us, preparing to tear apart the last of the red hot suns, I know you're all going to settle back and enjoy with me what I know we will find all an immensely exciting and terminal experience."
"Believe me, ladies and gentlemen," he said, "there's nothing penultimate about this one."
"This," he said, "really is the absolute end, the final chilling desolation, in which the whole majestic sweep of creation becomes extinct. This ladies and gentlemen is the proverbial `it'."
"After this," he said, "there is nothing. Void. Emptiness. Oblivion. Absolute nothing ..." And for once," he cried cheerily, "you don't need to worry about having a hangover in the morning - because there won't be any more mornings!"
"It's marvellous though," he rattled on, "to see so many of you here tonight - no isn't it though? Yes, absolutely marvellous. Because I know that so many of you come here time and time again, which I think is really wonderful, to come and watch this final end of everything, and then return home to your own eras ... and raise families, strive for new and better societies, fight terrible wars for what you know to be right ... it really gives one hope for the future of all lifekind. Except of course," he waved at the blitzing turmoil above and around them, "that we know it hasn't got one ..."
I quote all this because it represents exactly what science teaches.

There are really only two possible outcomes to the universe as understood by science. Either the gradient of the universe is greater than or equal to zero (i.e the universe will either continue to expand infinitely, or will asymptotically approach some maximum size), in which case entropy will event result in a frozen universe without life. Or the gradient or the universe is negative in which case it will eventually collapse in on itself into a flaming singularity. The bottom line in either case is there will eventually be a time when the universe will be unable to support life of any kind. There are no other solutions supported by science. At least as far as "lifekind" is concerned there will eventually be an end to the universe.

So, if your faith is only in science, why bother?

What value is there in raising children, building a better world, creating monuments, etc. Yeah, you might make things better for some number of generations; but eventually there will be no more generations. People may be able to see your monument for many years; but eventually there will be no one left to see them. It doesn't matter if mankind expands beyond this planet, or if some new lifeform evolves and discovers what we have left behind. Eventually they too will die out since science says that the eventual end is universal and inevitable. If the consequences of anything you do is guaranteed to be of limited duration, then why look past your own lifetime? Or your own life?

Frankly, if I didn't have faith – if someone came up with an absolute proof that there is no God and that the universe is a random accident, I could see myself becoming an amoral hedonist. I'd live for my short-term pleasure. I wouldn't break any big laws because I wouldn't want to risk wasting time in prison, and I would be careful not to be so nasty to anyone that they might take harmful action against me; but beyond that – anything goes. If nothing I do matters in the long term – if you think in long enough terms - (and that is the real lesson of science), then why not?

Posted by Steven at June 30, 2005 06:20 PM

Comments

awesome questions, something i think about often. especially how to have any sense of career or purpose in the face of potentially nihilist absolutes.

there was an offshoot of a major philosophical school in india that struggled with this in the second century well before our post-modern and existentialist relativism or even the scientific nihilism you mention. this offshoot group fell into hedonism of a sort. very uncivil. i'm sure people stopped inviting them to parties. who wants to clean up after they break everything?

anyway, the main line of that school however didn't end up in the nihilistic bent. they came to the conclusion that they couldn't prove the existence of God, because all mental objects like "God" are conceptual. But similarly, they concluded that they could neither prove the non-existence of God, since that too would be a concept. they went on to say the same things about 'self', 'I', things, and all experiences.

so in that way, they both were able to hold that the existence was unprovable (whole-ly conceptual) but just as importantly that non-existence or nihilism was also unprovable (being whole-ly conceptual too.) they were then called the 'middle way' school (sanskrit: madhyamaka) because they avoided the extremes of eternalism and nihilism. not sure if they were more fun or responsible if you were to invite them to a party, though...

Posted by: owlmonkey [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 30, 2005 01:37 PM

Your post begs for a response - learned, measured, and well thought out. And what is coming to mind is 57 flavors of mush.....

The scientist within me agrees that this universe will either go cold and dark, or become a massive singularity to big bang all over again. In either case, what is in this universe will be used up, spent, and of no import to anything. Yet, as a scientist, I can also conceive of other universes and potential travel to such places. So there is always hope to take the best of this universe, before it is used up, across the universe boundary to someplace else.
The generations bootstrap each other to higher heights in case they can eventually achieve the boundary crossing.

The spiritual being within me feels pretty much the same way but for wholly different reasons. If you haven't sunk to self-satisfaction at the expense of all else, you may get to go to the alternate universe we call 'heaven.' Escape is possible without having to wait another 14 billion years. Unfortunately, you can't take anything with you except that which is in your mind.

In either case something has a chance to persist. I have to maintain a positive attitude that one of the two is correct, otherwise we *are* only left with "42."

Posted by: Roland at July 1, 2005 11:41 AM

Ro,

Re: "escaping to another universe" - of course, it has only been in the last 3 years that there has been any scientific basis to think that there may in fact be other universes (and at best what we have are models that say there could be other universes, but no indication that they do exists).

Re: "heaven" - yeah, another point I wanted to make (but the blog was already quite long) was that even faith in "god" is pointless unless you assume that god exists outside the universe and that they have the ability to transport you out as well. Faith in a deity which is contained within the universe would seem equally pointless.

Posted by: Steven at July 1, 2005 01:46 PM

you lost me in all of this...I just think the stuff is funny. I enjoy the silliness of it all. (Naming a title character after a car.) But then again, I'm into words and grammar...not science.

Posted by: Anne at July 1, 2005 02:12 PM

There has only been scientific basis for a short time, but certainly science fiction has belabored the point for a half-century or more. And before that the thinkers of the world have certainly imagined such possibilities for hundreds of years.

And as for heaven - where does it exist spatially? It was thought in the clouds, but that has given way to a more ethereal concept as we have gained flight. So isn't heaven, "another plane of existance," in concept another universe? Doesn't that mean we've been thinking in that vein for millennia?

:-)

Posted by: Roland at July 5, 2005 07:46 AM

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